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Old 04-20-2002, 12:58 AM
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Ezek 35 & 36

I just hate to see a category that says "never," especially on the subject of prophecy. So I was trying to think of something for a starter here.

You have all had experiences, no doubt, where you have had something on your mind ---- or maybe you've had nothing on your mind, and yet, you open your Bible to a place that is sooooo on point to what you've been pondering. It's a strange phenomena that sometimes takes your breath away !!!

Well, I would suggest that as an opener for this category, and in light of the current world situation, you read Ezek 35 and 36. Maybe it's just me, but it made me go, 'Wowee Zowee." It was like reading today's newspaper ! ! !

When you're reading it, remember this:

The so-called Palestinians are descendants of Esau. Esau is Edom (Gen 36:1), the Edomites. They were given an inheritance, but it was NOT Jerusalem, it was Mount Seir (Deu 2:5).

Ya know, eventually prophecy COMES TO PASS, and after reading these two chapters, I think you'll agree with me that the future is NOW !
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Old 04-23-2002, 12:12 PM
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Wink The truth shall set you free!

...Rivkah, what if you had a choice to make, concerning the interpretation of prophecy? You could either interpret the ones spoken of (the desolate ones) as being those of the Assyrian and Babylonian desolation, (we of our time now freed), or you could put the prophecy into our own times. (we are dead meat!) What direction would you take? In the interpretation of prophecy, this same choice is ever present. Most people interpret to bind and distroy the people of our own time. The fewest will choose to place the prophecy in the background. Now suppose that YHWH would make the interpretation fit a single persons escotalogy, a person not of our choosing. Would you hope that the "chosen one" would be of past revelations or an X-tian believer of current catastrophy? I myself, like an easy day, freed of the belief that the day of YHWH is coming. Now if the day of YHWH is found to be in the past, then "John" might be "Elijah" to Malachi's foretelling of the (great day of YHWH). But the telling cannot be 2000 years out of date, so could "John", really be Elijah? If the day of YHWH was at hand in the time of (jesus), then it came and passed. But we didn't notice it, because it belonged to YHWH's own people. If we are callous to Yahudah's suffering, then perhaps YHWH will let the X-tians prophecy our own distruction.

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33 Thus saith the Adonai Elohenu; (**In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities**) I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.

34 And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by. Isa. 36: 33, 34

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...This is easy enough to prove, {that all Israel is righteous and cleansed of their sin} from the written texts of the tanakh. This I have done already. But I'm not going to cover X-tianity with this blessing. They will have to cover themselves. Rivkah, will you go naked or will you cover yourself and prove all Israel righteous?

...Rivkah, who are the desolate ones? Your fate is in your hands!

...Baruch Hashem,....Michael
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Old 04-24-2002, 01:24 PM
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The words of the son of David, king in Jerusalem.

All the rivers run into the sea, yet the sea is not full; to the place from which the rivers come, they return there again.

The eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

That which has been is what will be, that which is done is what will be done.

Is there anything or which it may be said, "See, this is new"? It has already been in ancient times before us.
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Old 04-24-2002, 03:16 PM
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Post All Israel will be found righteous! --> Is this a prophecy or a fact?

...Big wheel justs keeps on turning? But the past cannot meet the present, without some interpretation of the words of the prophets. And if all Israel was found righteous 500+ years before (jesus) called himself the messiah, and if (jesus) didn't know the name of his own GD, would that indenture the interpretation of prophecy to new ways? Perhaps the prophets of christianity are not really prophets. That would leave their hearts exposed in their interpretations of the verse. We would all know what evil occupied their hearts!

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; Zech. 13: 4

....Michael
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:02 AM
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An encryption without a cypher isnt very useful. The christian world has a myriad of interpretations because they forget that there are no private interpretations (only one objective meaning), that you cannot interpret the scripture with outside sources (ex: historical exegesis, anthropologic exegesis) and they also forget that all of tora and prophets forshadowed not just messiah but all that we were to expect from His hand.

If you are a separation or substitution theologist or you alagorize to defer to geologic or radio tomographic time lines, then

you are piping a tune in the marketplace expecting Joshua Messiah to dance, or playing a dirdge expecting Him to weap.

The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; and the knowledge of the Holy is understanding.

...it shall be Holy (holiness) onto the Lord ...

If, as a self=proclaimed christian, we do not love Zion, if we do not seek the Gates of the daughter of Zion and to know ALL that G-d calls Holy to Himself then we will never understand and find the Key of David.

Its a military problem at the root.
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:20 AM
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Big wheels indeed! A Star out of Jacob, The Bright and Morning Star, the Dawn Star. Pleadies or the seven systers. Octuras and Orion and Leo and Aries and the fishes and the loaves and the new wine. Very mysterious, or so all the babylonian mezmer has made it. The first thing Sparkey needs to do is apply some filters and improve the signal to noise ratio to be able to lock in the carrier .... can we all say Laplace Transformation?

An encryption without a cypher isnt very useful. The christian world has a myriad of interpretations because they forget that there are no private interpretations (only one objective meaning), that you cannot interpret the scripture with outside sources (ex: historical exegesis, anthropologic exegesis) and they also forget that all of tora and prophets forshadowed not just messiah but all that we were to expect from His hand. New testament understanding is impossible without tora et al. Without a love for every word - even the harsh ones.

If you are a separation or substitution theologist or you alagorize to defer to geologic or radio tomographic time lines, then

you are piping a tune in the marketplace expecting Joshua Messiah to dance, or playing a dirdge expecting Him to weap.

The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; and the knowledge of the Holy is understanding.

...it shall be Holy (holiness) onto the Lord ...

If, as a self=proclaimed christian, we do not love Zion, if we do not seek the Gates of the daughter of Zion and to know ALL that G-d calls Holy to Himself then we will never understand and find the Key of David.

People forget that Daniel was a spook. Mene Mene Teckel Upharsine. There is that libra thing. Did anyone ever figure out what Kng David meant when he asked if anyone could understand his (g-ds) error in Psalm 19? Wheels keep on turning, clock keeps on ticking, the times they are a changing.

Its a military problem at the root.

Without a ticket issued from the right Certificate Authority, the pattern will not resolve, the metaphoric encryption remains entact, and any jerk with a bible to thump can pretend to be an authority adding even more layers of dust to the gnostic contagion.

so how does one prophesy when one does not know how to set the table?
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:36 AM
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Big wheels indeed! A Star out of Jacob, The Bright and Morning Star, the Dawn Star. Pleadies or the seven systers. Octuras and Orion and Leo and Aries and the fishes and the loaves and the new wine. Very mysterious, or so all the babylonian mezmer has made it. The first thing Sparkey needs to do is apply some filters and improve the signal to noise ratio to be able to lock in the carrier .... can we all say Laplace Transformation?

An encryption without a cypher isnt very useful. The christian world has a myriad of interpretations because they forget that there are no private interpretations (only one objective meaning), that you cannot interpret the scripture with outside sources (ex: historical exegesis, anthropologic exegesis) and they also forget that all of tora and prophets forshadowed not just messiah but all that we were to expect from His hand. New testament understanding is impossible without tora et al. Without a love for every word - even the harsh ones.

If you are a separation or substitution theologist or you alagorize or defer to geologic or radio tomographic time lines, then

you are piping a tune in the marketplace expecting Joshua Messiah to dance, or playing a dirdge expecting Him to weap.

The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; and the knowledge of the Holy is understanding.

...it shall be Holy (holiness) onto the Lord ...

If, as a self=proclaimed christian, we do not love Zion, if we do not seek the Gates of the daughter of Zion and to know ALL that G-d calls Holy to Himself then we will never understand and find the Key of David, Jesuah Messiah.

People forget that Daniel was a spook. Mene Mene Teckel Upharsine. There is that libra thing. Did anyone ever figure out what Kng David meant when he asked if anyone could understand his (g-ds) error in Psalm 19? Wheels keep on turning, clock keeps on ticking, the times they are a changing. But who can read the mission clock?

Its a military problem at the root.

Without a ticket issued from the right Certificate Authority, the pattern will not resolve, the metaphoric encryption remains entact, and any jerk with a bible to thump can pretend to be an authority adding even more layers of dust to the gnostic contagion.

so how does one prophesy when one does not know how to set the table?
how can one measure without a standard of measurement? The earth really is the center of the universe - forget that we have to plot the other sisters as epicycles instead of elipses ... how something moves and where you take your measurements are different things - why do we insist on an inertial frame of reference? The math doesn't care how you derive the parametric equations. Just don't divide by 0 and it still works out.

it all depends on where you start to stretch your flax line. Where is the origin of your system? Do you plot from the center of gravity of the sun like the world does? If you do you will be bound in your vision to the three laws of motion and the three laws of thermodynamics and you will trade for your G-d, the one that has delivered all from the house of bondage, a nice consise definition for temperature.

Substitute the standard model or the latest string theory where appopriate.

forgive spelling, but you all are not my CIO, so I don't really care.
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:48 AM
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Big wheels indeed! A Star out of Jacob, The Bright and Morning Star, the Dawn Star. Pleadies or the seven systers. Octuras and Orion and Leo and Aries and the fishes and the loaves and the new wine. Very mysterious, or so all the babylonian mezmer has made it. The first thing Sparkey needs to do is apply some filters and improve the signal to noise ratio to be able to lock in the carrier .... can we all say Laplace Transformation?

An encryption without a cypher isnt very useful. The christian world has a myriad of interpretations because they forget that there are no private interpretations (only one objective meaning), that you cannot interpret the scripture with outside sources (ex: historical exegesis, anthropologic exegesis) and they also forget that all of tora and prophets forshadowed not just messiah but all that we were to expect from His hand. New testament understanding is impossible without tora et al. Without a love for every word - even the harsh ones.

If you are a separation or substitution theologist or you alagorize or defer to geologic or radio tomographic time lines, then

you are piping a tune in the marketplace expecting Joshua Messiah to dance, or playing a dirdge expecting Him to weap.

The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; and the knowledge of the Holy is understanding.

...it shall be Holy (holiness) onto the Lord ...

If, as a self=proclaimed christian, we do not love Zion, if we do not seek the Gates of the daughter of Zion and to know ALL that G-d calls Holy to Himself then we will never understand and find the Key of David, Jesuah Messiah.

People forget that Daniel was a spook. Mene Mene Teckel Upharsine. There is that libra thing. Did anyone ever figure out what Kng David meant when he asked if anyone could understand his (g-ds) error in Psalm 19? Wheels keep on turning, clock keeps on ticking, the times they are a changing. But who can read the mission clock?

Its a military problem at the root.

Without a ticket issued from the right Certificate Authority, the pattern will not resolve, the metaphoric encryption remains entact, and any jerk with a bible to thump can pretend to be an authority adding even more layers of dust to the gnostic contagion.

so how does one prophesy when one does not know how to set the table?
how can one measure without a standard of measurement? The earth really is the center of the universe - forget that we have to plot the other sisters as epicycles instead of elipses ... how something moves and where you take your measurements are different things - why do we insist on an inertial frame of reference? The math doesn't care how you derive the parametric equations. Just don't divide by 0 and it still works out.

it all depends on where you start to stretch your flax line. Where is the origin of your system? Do you plot from the center of gravity of the sun like the world does? If you do you will be bound in your vision to the three laws of motion and the three laws of thermodynamics and you will trade for your G-d, the one that has delivered all from the house of bondage, a nice consise definition for temperature.

Substitute the standard model or the latest string theory where appopriate.

forgive spelling, but you all are not my CIO, so I don't really care.
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